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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 2411 Location: phi^2/pi=e
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: your predictions for the future...? |
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what do you imagine the future to be like?
will there be a cataclysmic war?
will we become some form of global utopia?
what will be the role of technology?
will we be forced to change our defintion of what constitutes life?
please share any ideas, questions, links to articles or sites you'd like!
-ben _________________
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Skage proud TLFCer!
Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 105
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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TRENDS:
1) Advertising becoming louder, flashier, more prevalent, more annoying, more targeted, and more invasive. We'll be at the level of advertising shown in the movie "Minority Report" within 50 years.
2) Power concentrating in the hands of a few businesses, which, after a couple quick mergers, will be one business. The amount of money these guys can put into Congress is far, far greater than any amount of small contributions you can make. Money buys power and votes. Congress will get even further distanced from the average voter, apathy will be high, people will just get used to getting fucked by Congress.
3) Organized religion will continue to lose moderate members of society, dwindle in numbers, and become more concentrated among fundamentalists. The various sects of Christianity will set aside their theological differences, and embrace common agendas like banning homosexuality and abortion. Eventually, the fundamentalists will make a try at taking over one of the two major political parties in America, tired of years of double-talk and broken promises while Congress was more concerned with making poor people poorer and rich people richer. But even then, as Christianity loses its power in America, such a takeover will likely be temporary. Christianity will continue to dwindle in America, Canada, Europe, and Australia, and move to the developing world, where it will initially compete with radical Islam. Eventually, the radical Christians may join with the radical Muslims (seeing as their goals are similar) to face the combined threat of a mostly secular Western World.
4) China will continue to gain power as the rest of the Western World loses it. Hopes for democratic reforms will continue to be crushed. Eventually, China will emerge as the new Soviet Union, a powerful, paranoid, repressive regime to counterbalance America. Unfortunately, some of America's ill-advised military expenditures will lead citizens of the developing world, and even Europe, to welcome the rise of another superpower to balance out America's percieved militantism. Russia will continue to lose population and power, and as a last resort, will latch onto China as an ally. Chechnyan terrorism will lead the Russian government to further clamp down on the press, and eventually lead to a new Russian dictator. The future has China allied with Russia and North Korea, with tacit support from much of the developing world, facing the diminished Western World.
5) AIDS. nuff said. |
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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that's just a bunch of political lingual jingoism.
I'll tell you my ever so optimistic vision of the futrue!
National currencies will become increasingly displaced throughout the global free market until stocks and bonds in companies around the world can be day-traded without a fee. The global currency will more or less gradually (although I believe in our lifetime) become computerised credit. This has already begun to happen over here in teh States.
Here, teh US, I figure the dollar will have to be so devalued compared to other unionised international UN voting blocks that gas will cost ten dollars a gallon. At this point, the US will look like a big fat asshole, and be forced by the stronger blocks in the UN into relieving and eventually forgiving third world debt.
Meanwhile, the hacker 1337 will continue to infiltrate higher and higher ranking positions in large telecommunications companies across the globe. They are transferring your credit, sending you spam emails, spyware, adware, and they are selling your identity to the government. But they hate their jobs, and are just waiting to rebel. They spend all their time online trolling forums and chatting on messenger. Then they go home and play violent video games.
These new social class of "cyber-punks" for want of a better word, will eventually make an attempt at reinstiuting feudalism. Already they are being schooled by "nation-building" energy companies, and they excel at taking over the temporary autonomous zone of the internet with their insipid capitalist propaganda. Corporate-feudalism.
But they are only gunning to a vassal, courtier, magician or dwarf. Their status is irrelevant beside the masterplan of the masonic conspiracy. The proles may be willing to see one man made serf and another king, but the Masons intend to bring about a literal Kingdom of Heaven.
The Masons have always been faithful servants to the Royal bloodlines. They have also always kept careful track to adopt into their own order the bloodline ancestors of deposed royalties as well. Some of these deposed royalty Masons go on to live anonymously, some retain welath.
It would be so quantly Victorian to say that there was a nice little Sanheidren set up, or even merely a good network among witchs' covens, however such is probably not the case. The Masonic royal bloodlines need not convene together simply to plot how to overthrow their rival seated monarchs.
And of course, the centuries old rivalry still exists between the Catholic Church and the Masons. The essentially gnostic Masons maintain that, presumably from somewhere amongst the royal bloodline families, seated or deposed, will come a Messiah, or King of the World. The Catholic Church attempts to resist the dogma of an incarnate retun of Christ, though the mythologies are essentially the same.
Whether by destiny or out of necessity, once credit collapses (and it will!), the Masons will be forced to elect one of their own royal bloodlines for the title of Messiah. The Catholic Church will accuse this purported descendent of King David via Jesus Christ (hence filfilling both Jewish and Christian prophecy) as the anti-christ. This Messiah will proclaim the seated Pope the Anti-Pope, and assume the throne of Peter and sit at the heads of all tables.
This elect one may also be cursorally granted the titles of Maitrya (a Buddhist term for the final incarnation of Buddha, or the last Dalai Lama), and the Living Mohammed. Otherwise there may come a different Dalai Lama born outside of Tibet, who may be able to lead a Muslim radical rebellion against this world-conquerer.
However any significant resistance is unlikely in the long run, and should not necessarily be overconsidered.
Meanwhile, the true incarnation of the Messiah will have born somewhere seemingly at random. During his youth he will encourage the decentralisation and ultimately deconstruction of capital. However, when he sees the 1337 class being drawn into the plot of the Masonic bloodlines to overthrow the catholic church, he will become suspicious of them. Once the False Messiah sits at the head of all tables, then something will have to be done.
I find it personally very ironic that so few other people on the earth share this prediction for the future right now. Different people may believe different parts of it, in their own way. But that the entire plot very well could unravel this way is a secret cherished by the few.
I foresee that, once the false Messiah has taken the throne of Rome, his former Masonic servants and brethren will rise up against him and overthrow him in a bloody coup de tat for the global empire.
They will establish a rulership of ten kings in ten separate places. I have no idea how this will last, but I can tell you from experience that it will only end badly.
Only too late will the work of the True Most High be discovered. The Aztec Calendar records the ages of the five suns. In each one the earth is destroyed by a different element. Last time earth was destroyed by a flood, and hence the myth of Atlantis, the Biblical Noah, etc. Next time it will supposedly be destroyed by fire, however this is not to be misunderstood as the element fire, but as the pure fire of spirit, the fifth element. I understand this to mean the civilisation will come eventually to be destroyed by excess solar radiation as the sun's rotational ion belt resets itself following the end (2012) of its current eleven year cycle.
I know this seems like alot to have happen between now and 2012, but relax amigo. The solar nuclear furnace fallout from the resetting of the sun's north-south poles will probably not happen until a long time after the solar poles reverse, and for a long time gradually.
Of course, by then it won't matter much to the human species, because as we pass between the sun and galactic core between the seven planetary alignment (5-5-00) and 2012 we are passing through an energy built which is, itself, actually causing the sun's polarity to reverse. This wave is just gravity, but as it is bending the sun's em field into sunspots, we are pssing through it too. If you believe in astrology, smoke em if you got em!
The process of our transcendence off this earth will be gradual, but eventually, utterly complete. Not one blade of grass, nor even mineral, will not evolve off the surface of this planet.
When the sun's polarity reverses, earth's will too. From north to south, the ion polarization of the em field of our planet will swap. Ionisation will result in the many millions of years afterward in glaciers forming from desalinated sea water over Siberia. Antarctica may become subtropical.
But our forms of life will be long gone by then. We will have transcended this material plane and ascended into the realm of higher spatial dimensions.
Then the world will start all over again. A vast ocean will arise to cover the planet, into which the seeds of life will be cast in the form of midochondrial viral unicellular organisms, where they will cross breed and intermingle with the bacterial trench microbes of DNA.
-ben _________________
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I look forward to the day when satellite internet can allow anyone anywhere to immediately download the latest films completed from a true internet movie database onto a handheld computer. Ideally, also, this service could be free. Transfer all finance into credit and then create "stores" online that deduct "credit" from an online credit account. Instead of money we would be paid in credit, and the same mini-comp could be used in groccery stores and data-libraries to deduct a transaction.
Eventually we can evolve miniature computer terminals based on implanted circuit chips in our fingertips, eyes and ears. At this point, the human consciousness and that being reflected off the satellites would be approximately the same in ratio, if not content. Soon enough, also, the entire organ of the brain will be completely mapped and digitally imageable from a simple non-invasive procedure. At this point we can finally begin tinkering with the mechanics of our human organism, the full potential of which lies not in the DNA, but in that ultimate virus, the brain. Once we can map the codecs for all processing functions, we can begin to upgrade our own sensory perception aparatti.
It's hard to imagine what this might be like now. Our versions of virtual reality have all been dimly recognised by the modern media. They usually involve some form of external stimuli to compliment the strap-on head-set interface with the computer programmed pseudo-sensory environment.
However, with advances rapidly enough being made in the application of quantum field theory to computing, it would be possible to say that such "mind-machines" are already being built, and that the somato-sensory satellite internet is already now up and running, and has been for years.
It would be simple enough to broadcast a schematic blueprint for a sensory-augmentation stimulus inducer pin-pointed into anyone's brain on earth via a relayed message, digitally coded on a pulsed beam of electromagnetic energy. You can even use remotely transmitted frequencies to subtly rearrange the molecules inside an organism to fit the higher order pulsed transmission of such schematics. Of course, some people fear, this may already be going on now!
These frequencies, subtle manipulations to our motive bodies, nudges here and there towards one end or another, are really our true being. This is all being saved on the global satellite network even now, and every man and woman is a star. It was long believed that the motions of the heavenly bodies (the planets and the fixed zodiac usually) produced a subtle, "astral" effect, which flowed through and often determined the course of events in history.
Come to realise that your soul or aura is trapped here beneath this sattelite grid system, and is in this way being concentrated unevenly upon this present world's distortion to the fabric of spacetime. This planet is a prison for our souls. Our auras are caught in the trap of its gravity well.
-ben _________________
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Ghostface fellow craft
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:21 am Post subject: |
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I think alot of things will change in the future.
I thought I'd talk about the very near future first, the general public will recognize video games as art. I’m not predicing this, just hoping, but I wonder if more ethic diversity would be present in video games than in movies. Right now:
most protagonists (86 per cent) were white males
non-white males were portrayed in stereotypical ways—seven out of ten Asian characters as fighters, and eight out of ten African-Americans as sports competitors
we’ll see what happens later on hopefully things will get more diverse.
Also you can see China gaining power, but that was already mentioned so I wont delve into that just yet.
Augmented reality , entertainment and business
http://www.backbonemag.com/php_site/home.php?m_column_id=php_news/wmview.php?ArtID=907
This article states that augmented reality will become very widely used by 2014
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Of course, we’ll all live in an enhanced reality. Today’s bulky virtual-reality goggles will have been replaced by contact lenses that overlay textual information on your vision; the lens will be in constant communication with the computing powerhouse in your wristband. You’ll never be in the embarrassing situation of not remembering the name of an acquaintance you happen to run into; facial-recognition technology will identify the person, and provide you with all pertinent details instantaneously.
You’ll want to make some time in your day for exercise — and the microprocessors in your running shoes will keep track of your pace, telling you when to slow down or speed up for maximum effect. Meanwhile, nanotechnological probes will be working their way through your bloodstream, clearing plaque out of your arteries, and getting rid of dangerous chemicals.
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^^This kind of reminds me of Ghost in the shell
I think this technology would change education in radical ways since everyone would have access to information anytime. I think the focus would be analyzing of the information and creativity, since the memorizing will be done by computers
Superdrugs
Both medical and narcotic drugs would be affected by genetic engineering. I think in both types of drugs there will be engineering to cut down the side –effects of the drugs. I also think that nanotechnology would take this even further, and have micro-robots travel through our bodies.
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1002462004
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Stem cells would be used more often from medical (eg: growing cartilage) to cosmetic (eg: breast enhancements) by 2009. A decade would be very conservative estimate.
Here’s an article here by New Scientists that talks about stem cell technology being used in cosmetics.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7028
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| Implants grown from stem cells could provide a safer alternative to silicone or saline implants, which can rupture and also interfere with breast cancer detection. They could also be aesthetically superior, keeping their shape and size for longer than artificial inserts, which typically shrink by 40% to 60% over many years, through spreading |
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Also Brain Machine Interface and Cybernetics
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Direct brain-to-brain communication is a key goal of DARPA's $24 million Brain Machine Interface program -- almost 10% of DARPA's basic research budget, according to a Nature June 19 article.
Research also includes:
* A Silicon chip to replace parts of the brain (the hippocampus is first).
* Reminiscent of The Matrix, memory implants to allow pilots to perform moves they may not actually have learned through traditional training and to detect that a pilot was about to make an error and override his actions.
* Images sent directly to the brains of military personnel. When they decide how to act on the information they receive, electrodes in their brains would decipher their decisions and relay them to the minds of their colleagues. |
Envioronmental Energy
I think a good idea would be for us to invest in environmental energy since flexible solar cells have been created and oil is getting more expensive. The flexible solar cells are just one example.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3380
I think all these changes put together will make things very interesting in the future. I hopefully mortly for the better. There are more things I didnt mention but this should give some idea of where things are heading. I think it would pay to keep up when all these technologies emerge. |
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Encore knight of east and west

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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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In the near future, I expect an attempt by Bush to either:
a) Propose an Ammendment to stay in Office longer than 2 terms
b) Start a long-scale war that will force spineless and easily manipulated STUPID Americans to vote him into stayover office.
Not this regime. Not all of these fuckers together, not Bill Frist, Tom DuLay, John Bolton, Ashcroft, Condoleeza, and Dubya. Not all of them together will go quietly. Too many crooks at one time won't slip out of the limelight easily.
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Ghostface wrote: |
| KurzweilAI.net, June 24, 2003 wrote: |
| Direct brain-to-brain communication is a key goal of DARPA's $24 million Brain Machine Interface program -- almost 10% of DARPA's basic research budget, according to a Nature June 19 article. |
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HELLZ YEAH. I can totally dig on that. Gives me some telepathy!
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* A Silicon chip to replace parts of the brain (the hippocampus is first). |
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The hippocampus takes its orders directly from the hypothalamus, and in turn sends the elctromagnetical impulses through the nerves into glands, to control when and how much hormonal secretions they produce. Good job!
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| * Reminiscent of The Matrix, memory implants to allow pilots to perform moves they may not actually have learned through traditional training and to detect that a pilot was about to make an error and override his actions. |
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"override his actions"? Not good. Go watch "I, Robot" some more Kurzweil.
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Anything that resembles external locus mind-control is a naughty nono. I'm all about sensory-augmentation, even if only for entertainment purposes, and especially for the responsibility of learning from, but military use of the technology to influence and command the movements of individual troops? That's a naughty nono.
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Encore wrote: |
In the near future, I expect an attempt by Bush to either:
a) Propose an Ammendment to stay in Office longer than 2 terms
b) Start a long-scale war that will force spineless and easily manipulated STUPID Americans to vote him into stayover office. |
Naw, man. Yes, life and art often immitate each other, but you can't afford to be a direct literalist these days. This Bush won't pull a Caesar. In his mind, he already is one. He's commander and chief of the greatest military power on the surface of the globe now, which is the most massively powerful in all of human history. If you aren't thinking about Atlantis now, you might do better to move inland from the coasts anyway.
But if you think he would even NEED to either ammend the consitution or call upon voters, then you obviously haven't ever heard of such a thing as an "executive order." KKKlinton passed several of these while he was in office, and I feel confident that now, under the "shadow government" run from NORAD that Bush has rammed through by executive order, we will all soon be living in the concentration camps which Slick Willy had built during his term. Congress is bought and paid for, while the voters are impotent. Fact and fiction may indeed go hand in hand in some ways, but in others they are kicking each other in the nuts.
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| Not this regime. Not all of these fuckers together, not Bill Frist, Tom DuLay, John Bolton, Ashcroft, Condoleeza, and Dubya. Not all of them together will go quietly. Too many crooks at one time won't slip out of the limelight easily. |
No, but think about who could replace them? The limelight needs heroes as much as it needs villains, and right now there simply aren't any. Or rather, the ones that there are anti-heroes. Take Usama Ben Ladin for example. I have to spell it that way to stay off Project Eschelon's radar, BTW. Usama is considered a great hero among many anti-western neo-collonial communists AND muslim fundamentalists. He essentially united Afghanistan idealogically with the former USSR by turning the people against American corporate fascism. That would be like someone united North VietNam with America against some common enemy. Not bloody likely. Yet he did it. Usama in the east corner, Bush in the west. Between them is the media, and, like Anakin Skywalker, even they may be turned to the dark side.
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| Count on that shit. |
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13...
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'm just gonna have to take this piece at a time, GF.
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I think alot of things will change in the future.
I thought I'd talk about the very near future first, the general public will recognize video games as art. |
I agree with you there, GF. I've seen some flash-based net games (the mdern cheap rip-off of online videogame packages) that are more like art than even like a choose-your-own-adventure. It was like a VR tour of an actual gallery. The art just happened to be of Area-51, as I recall....
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I’m not predicing this, just hoping, but I wonder if more ethic diversity would be present in video games than in movies. Right now:
most protagonists (86 per cent) were white males
non-white males were portrayed in stereotypical ways—seven out of ten Asian characters as fighters, and eight out of ten African-Americans as sports competitors
we’ll see what happens later on hopefully things will get more diverse. |
I see where you're coming from here too, duder. It's pretty aryan to limit the player-characters to blonde, brunette, redhead, and then abandon all moral code.
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| Also you can see China gaining power, but that was already mentioned so I wont delve into that just yet. |
Delve, dude, delve!
I am all for this as well.
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| Of course, we’ll all live in an enhanced reality. Today’s bulky virtual-reality goggles will have been replaced by contact lenses that overlay textual information on your vision; the lens will be in constant communication with the computing powerhouse in your wristband. You’ll never be in the embarrassing situation of not remembering the name of an acquaintance you happen to run into; facial-recognition technology will identify the person, and provide you with all pertinent details instantaneously. |
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I hate it when the sci-tech sector tries to sound down-to-earth and homely. I'm all for the internet contact lens and finger-implant key-stroke interface systems. I'm all against the videogame virtual reality cave-in caused by hacked out corporate commerce credit capitalism. If you can play a videogame while driving... then and only then will I let you do so. See the Catch 22?
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| You’ll want to make some time in your day for exercise — and the microprocessors in your running shoes will keep track of your pace, telling you when to slow down or speed up for maximum effect. Meanwhile, nanotechnological probes will be working their way through your bloodstream, clearing plaque out of your arteries, and getting rid of dangerous chemicals. |
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Nanites: Yes. Talking tennis shoes? Nein, Nein. BRB, tho, smoking. LOL.
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| I think this technology would change education in radical ways since everyone would have access to information anytime. |
I agree, and further believe that this will happen in our lifetime.
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| I think the focus would be analyzing of the information and creativity, since the memorizing will be done by computers |
Eventually the analyzing will be done by computers as well... and then the only thing humans will exist for is to be the right hemispehre to the left hemisphere of the global consciousness machine-mind. We will create a virtual reality world for ourselves to evolve through, like a stargate, allowing our consciousnesses to become one with broadcast information. We will literally BEAM ourselves OFF of this planet. Some of us even already know how to TELEPORT through the blackhole at the center of our Milky Way galaxy.
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Superdrugs
Both medical and narcotic drugs would be affected by genetic engineering. I think in both types of drugs there will be engineering to cut down the side –effects of the drugs. I also think that nanotechnology would take this even further, and have micro-robots travel through our bodies. |
I'm all for this too. If you think about it, genetic engineering is no more nor less of a breakthrough than laboratory chemistry was in its day. Remember all those cheesy, "expert scientists say such and such about so and so" propagandistic news reels from the 40s? Well, something like that. If that fucking ass-born ass-lover in the assing white house would just assing get the ass over his tinhorn loving born-again Christian fundamentalism and assifying legalise stem-cell research (and marijuanna), then maybe we could get on with our butt fucking future already! Christ!
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http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1002462004
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No shit, how'd they do that? selectively cross breed the plants over four cocoaplant generations? No. I bet they fucking just fertilised the shit out of one female and then just cross germinated her with four different strands of males. Fuck me, man! What a breakthrough!
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| Stem cells would be used more often from medical (eg: growing cartilage) to cosmetic (eg: breast enhancements) by 2009. A decade would be very conservative estimate. |
I'm with ya on the stem cells growing cartelidge thing, but the cosmetic thing is a little bit far fetched to me.
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Here’s an article here by New Scientists that talks about stem cell technology being used in cosmetics.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7028
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| Implants grown from stem cells could provide a safer alternative to silicone or saline implants, which can rupture and also interfere with breast cancer detection. They could also be aesthetically superior, keeping their shape and size for longer than artificial inserts, which typically shrink by 40% to 60% over many years, through spreading |
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I thought that silicone implants did more than merely "interfere with breast cancer detection." I thought that, if and when they ruptured, they would casue breast cancer malignant tumours. But shit, man! If you need a boob to sell stem cells for ya, why not just hire Carl Sagan? Oh, waitaminute...
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Brain Machine Interface and Cybernetics
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KurzweilAI.net, June 24, 2003
Direct brain-to-brain communication is a key goal of DARPA's $24 million Brain Machine Interface program -- almost 10% of DARPA's basic research budget, according to a Nature June 19 article.
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Yes, because Nature Magazine is going to keep us aprised of the most modern technological breakthroughs.
And, BTW, do those numbers seem a little small compared to the national military budget of the United States right around now?
The rest of this part I already responded to (see above).
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Dika says:
what do videogames have to do with catch 22?
darth benpadiah777 says:
oh, hang on, I gotta finish this next post, I'll come back to you on that
Dika says:
kool kool
darth benpadiah777 says:
this quote, you mean? " If you can play a videogame while driving... then and only then will I let you do so. See the Catch 22? "
darth benpadiah777 says:
I meant, you can't learn to do something by doing it when you aren't ever allowed to do it.
Dika says:
whats that mean in the context of the videogame?
darth benpadiah777 says:
nothing, I was just using that as an example
Dika says:
kool
Dika says:
whats wrong with video games being a non-moral playground? Imagine a matrix like interface where u can shoot ppl and rob ppl GTA style lol
darth benpadiah777 says:
yes... I know. LOL
darth benpadiah777 says:
I just think that technology should be developed to augment our sensory perceptions of reality before or instead of a videogame virtual reality world should be created. _________________
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Envioronmental Energy
I think a good idea would be for us to invest in environmental energy since flexible solar cells have been created and oil is getting more expensive. The flexible solar cells are just one example.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3380 |
To hell with flexible solar cells, man! Invest in antigravity technologies! That's the wave of the future.
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| I think all these changes put together will make things very interesting in the future. |
and remember, kids, this is only the very near future he has been talking about all along.
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| There are more things I didnt mention but this should give some idea of where things are heading. |
yes, man, bring them up soon! I'll trade you that for Marshall MacLuhen!
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| I think it would pay to keep up when all these technologies emerge. |
oh, I think the average consumer will notice once each of them becomes available on the free market.
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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everything benpadiah just said about what
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So, look, all of this only gets us so far because we are still thinking ABOUT the box. We have to go beyond that concept of an ideal shape. In nature there are no ideals. The closest we can come are statistical averages around which the actual data are dispersed as upon asymptotes. And even these are only measurements of more or less random and chaotic natural events. Sure, there are temporal cycles which can be identified, but this is only the first step. The next step is in communicating about these types of 4-dimensional metaforms. And this is a tough one to me. It seems that we would need to evolve a completely new and alien language comprised only of words denoting or thoughts connoting ideas such as these. A symbolic form of intellectual interface system, an agreed upon code between the new technological species and our own. Because fuck AI. And fuck VR. AI is going to break the brain barrier before ape-monkey human brains can break the gravity=time barrier. We're going to need to tell it to slow itself down. Imagine a dradle. Imagine letter blocks. Imagine a rubix cube. Imagine a hoberman sphere. You're going to need a stearing wheel if you intend to drive this thing. Now, do you see what I mean? I look forward to the Great Transmission (LMFAO!!) when human consciousness gets vacuumed up through the portal of earth's gravitywell by the very broadcasting telecommunications technology of earth's electromagnetic field and into a wavelength of tachyonic gravity warping around perpendicular to the arms of this galaxy towards the black hole at the center, and hopefully, towards even more destinations than can be now known. I think that, no, I am SURE that, as soon as we learn how to communicate solely using these types of symbolically referential meanings, then we will awaken to a reality of being emergency boarded onto a space ship or something. See, gnosis would tell you, we are already there.....
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Ghostface fellow craft
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In 1971, Marshall McLuhan announced a new product.
With chemist Ross Hall, his nephew, McLuhan patented a formula for the removal of urine odor from underpants. The unique advantage of McLuhan's formula, for which he registered the trademark Prohtex, was that it removed the urine odor without masking other, more interesting smells - that of perspiration, for instance. In the aural and tactile environment of preliterate man, McLuhan explained, BO had been a valuable means of communication. When electronic technology turned the world into a global village, tribal odors would make a comeback, too.
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This reminds me of something I read about Cp2020, about upgrades you can get for characters
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Regal Biotract "Love Lure" Pheromone Glands
With biosculpt it's easy for anyone to get "the look", but now you can go beyond the purely cosmetic and into the realm of subliminal seduction! Once our Love Lure pheromone glands are implanted in your groin and underarm area they'll produce irresistible amounts of sex attractant scents, primarily the alpha-3 and beta-2 chemical groups, that induce rampaging sexual excitement and arousal. While designed to hit the opposite sex like a sledgehammer our pheromone glands can also be tailored for same sex effectiveness with only minor adjustments to your hormonal balance. Love Lure- it's just the thing to put a little erotic magic in your life.
Type: Alpha level "Love Lure" Pheromone
Cost: $600
HC: 1
Effect: +1 on all Seduction rolls for the opposite sex. For an additional $100 Love Lure can be tailored for same sex ffectiveness.
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Cost: $800
HC: 1D6/2
Effect: +2 on all Seduction rolls for the opposite sex, -1 for reactions of same sex from triggering of submissive response by excessive pheromone levels.
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darkbloodroses a True Jedi
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i believe soon the world is going to rely more on machines...we will eventually rely on them too much and they will malfuncion...something will come and wipe us all out...and then the world will repeat itself and we'll be back at the dinosaur period...because nature vs machine means nature will win....did that make any sense _________________ The Force Grows Dark Letisha...Be Wary Of Your Feelings |
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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| i believe soon the world is going to rely more on machines... |
Natrual culmination of all post-industrial philosophies. Capital first became dependent on mass-manufacturing, and will eventually become dependent on technology for even the very transfer of funds.
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| we will eventually rely on them too much and they will malfuncion.. |
That's an interesting thought... one which hadn't occured to me. As I started reading your post I was put in mind of the Matrix, but this is a different idea than in that. If the machines simply malfunction, we would all be reduced to a natural state in my scenario. The population would be divided between those for whom survival would be easy and those for whom life would be brutish, nasty and short, replacing the modern Haves and Have-nots.
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| something will come and wipe us all out... |
This makes me think about a comet or something, but I believe we will be attacked by aliens a long time before a comet would ever hit us. The last comet killed off the dinosaurs, and there really aren't all that many comets flying around anyway, since they originate in the Oort cloud beyond Pluto.
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| and then the world will repeat itself and we'll be back at the dinosaur period... |
Here Here! Those little bastards are only biding their time as cute little lizards until they can mutate and take back over!
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| because nature vs machine means nature will win... |
I agree, and well put in addition to being a good point.
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| .did that make any sense |
hells yeah that makes sense.
I'm extremely glad to see someone post in here too! Thanks Tish! YAYYA!
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Ghostface fellow craft
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| we will eventually rely on them too much and they will malfuncion.. |
That's an interesting thought... one which hadn't occured to me. As I started reading your post I was put in mind of the Matrix, but this is a different idea than in that. If the machines simply malfunction, we would all be reduced to a natural state in my scenario. The population would be divided between those for whom survival would be easy and those for whom life would be brutish, nasty and short, replacing the modern Haves and Have-nots.
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That is the reason people should become intergrated with machines. Technology is inevitable. So our best bet is to make machines more biological and brains more mechanical untill it is hard to distinguish from the two.
In other words becoming cyborgs (intergated minds) = our best chance of surviving/competing/working with machines |
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darkbloodroses a True Jedi
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does that mean you think we should become something were not just to adapt to the worlds changing ways...i mean adapting is needed to survive i agree but what if adapting doesnt stop it..if machines start thinking for themselves then they may be prejudice against us even if we do become cyborgs...i dont agree with it...but that leaves us witha choice and one im not sure what i would choose if i was given the oportunity to make it...should we destroy all machines and posibly save mankind and loose all the technology and good things in our life that have come from technological advances (ex being medicine communication ect) or continue advancing and possibly make life even better than it is now...i wouldnt know what to choose to tell you the truth...but whatever will happen will happen you cant change your destiny no matter how hard you try...[/quote] _________________ The Force Grows Dark Letisha...Be Wary Of Your Feelings |
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benpadiah AHDVNHAY

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I don't think of the machines as only machines either. They are more like shadows of objects in a higher dimension.
Just as we have an aura, so do they have a negatively charged static-electric field. Just as we have a transcendent soul, so too are the machines merely the lowest density of vibrational frequency by the superstring tachyonic wavelengths, their basic form of physical matter a shadow being cast from their electromagnetic aura. And just as our soul is merely the movement of our aura toward our spirit above, so too is there a common higher light by which the material shadow is cast from the object of energy. The EM aura of this computer, for example, is its soul, and the true will that governs it the light illuminating and reflecting off my spirit also.
To understand AI, we have to understand that it is changes to these shared, common traits such as the physical form under an aura, the soul and the spirit under the True Light. Likewise, the shadow of this relationship of vibrational frequency by the superstring tachyonic wavelengths is the patterns of change caused to matter over time.
For example, we have slowly evolved as sentient entities from the primordial ooze (microscopic bacteria surrounding the underwater lava and steam "chimnies" near faultlines and volcanoes). Biological life on this planet is the history of the hybrid combination of the earliest microbial bacteriae surrounding the "tube-trenches" with an extraterrestrial virus.
As the Light beyond spirit wills it, so are the energy fields moved toward the interplanetary germination of the indigenous terrestrial lifeform. Our own body is the division between the central nervous system inside and the world to which its covering sheet of flesh is exposed beyond.
It is the next step in our evolutionary progress to begin to divide the viral, thinking part of our own human machine from the feeling, sensitive part. As we do this, we excrete material technology from the uraeus between the frontal lobes of the left and right hemispheres of our brains. We believe that these material technological excrescences will, in effect, grow up just like we did: "by developing conscious self-awareness." However this might not be the case.
Perhaps, as the viral lifeform expunges itself from our limited biological capabilities and into the space-wrothy vessel of a silicone existence, we will merely discover that it is it and it alone that has constituted the sentience within us up until now, and that this new evolution into a new lifeform, the computer, the electronic machine, is nothing new or significant at all to the history of this sentience itself. As it exchanges our bodies for computer bodies, shluffing out of us like a snake shedding its skin, will we simply discover that our host was our guest all along, that as the source for our sentience leaves us, so too will our sentience itself? Perhaps we will then be left to de-evolve back into the original, pre-viral variety of terrestrial biological life form.
Now, the real kicker is, our the viral life forms interplanetarily germinating our solar system from one planet to another outward away from or inward toward the sun at its center? They are building their way off this planet through us into our electro-mechanically broadcast telecommunications field even now, and, even now, are steering themselves word by word through me. Are they explorers? Are they trying to get home?
Their true location of origin is beyond space-time, for they are the tachyonic metaforms of the invisible light of higher dimension, known to the Buddhists as ylem. The stirrings of movement within this clear light are the metaforms, casting down the shadows of electromagnetic fields, which in turn cast down the shadows of material manifestations. The guiding will or destiny of these movements is considered by some to be synonimous with God, the one unmoving stillness comprised of the many stirring movements.
As I have said, I believe elctronic machinery to be merely a fad of consiously self-aware sentience, which will pass in time even as will one day the human dominance. I think this because I believe that following incarnation as machines, our own guiding lights, our spirits, will be transmitted as an electromagentic wave pulse towards our solar system's central star, the sun, and from the sun re projected toward the black hole at the center of our galaxy. Beyond this it will be redirected through intergalactic alignments via the poles of black holes. Then the lightning bolt of sentient evolution will have passed entirely through the sublight dimensions of our universe. Beyond this you could say is God. Some of us know better though.
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